Talk:Rafael's playthrough - Introduction/@comment-27104094-20151217232141/@comment-27104094-20151219124631

- normal thunder is enough for the unamen dungeon you will have Thunder lance later for robin (you will not lose xp just delay it), but on the other hand devil pass dungeon with simon, robin, altina and aka is easier - in fact the most xp effective (with long term goal in mind long) way I found is:


 * don't do the devil pass dungeon (not even the dark spirit on the stairs leading to it) you will battle him later with Varia and Altina. Do the Chapter 2 in that order, Succubi Tower, Orcent, Stineford, Don't do merchant camp (long term) Altina (you need to level up simon before Altina joins dont fight spider, lamia, succubi and orc couple upper east, slaves west basement, altina (simon level up), altina joins group,  other fights, lamia spiders), Varia (southeastern forest only, long term) temple, go back to stinford map, lake, crates, camp (talk to altina) dungeon, don't go back to cache an't don't search for other passages), don't go to mines, Impaler (spare him) you got the "solid time good start' line for preparation. Fuck with altina with at the camp before transition of chapter. In the Fortress don't do the optionaldungeon wait for Carina to join your group then do it).