Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-27713488-20180114010136/@comment-68.102.93.192-20180227090115

Hello all. This could be called my big completionist theory that is my attempt to... Piece together the big lore puzzle. The basic rule; I'm taking everything at face value, and using Occam's Razor. Therefore, Tertia is a dead earth goddess, the man who saw the tower was Alonon, etc.

I'll start at the top of the tower, with Ivala.

Now, everybody has seen the Unnamed Blonde Goddess, and everyone seems to think it's Ivala. I agree. She seems to be placing her faith into one person, implied to be Simon(Being called a "Worthless mortal" kinda seems to be his thing, you know? For actual evidence, we know he's at least favored, because his "Heroic Imitation" skill actually hits the weakness of succubus enemies, which would be that Ivalan magic). This is strange, because Simon doesn't worship Ivala, and actively works against the church several times(Some of which are technically player-dependant, but oh well.) The trick here is that this either means he isn't the "Worthless mortal", or Ivala is indirectly working against her own church. Well... She is. Sounds counterintuitive, but it hinges on one thing; Who is keeping Ivala captive? In my belief, it's the Church themselves, or perhaps Hester. There are a few odd bits of information, but no smoking gun. I'd just offer the thought; Who the hell is going to capture a goddess, and not do something with that? It's not an Incubus King or something similar, because then you would definitely see the changes, or at least some mention of it at the Gathering, or something. It has to be something suitably powerful though, if it's a traditional enslavement. But, it isn't. She is unchained, able to think and talk, and even gets a visitor, that being Mithyn, multiple times, without some need for a big sneak-in thing. She just stops by. No, Ivala's not that kind of captive. Keep in mind, she's the goddess of humanity. She has massive power and influence... For humans. But, it's unreasonable to think that she is unaffected by the actions of humans. Think of it as an "Equal forces in opposite directions" thing. This will be mentioned again later, but what does this mean for Simon, and therefore, us players? If Ivala is betting on Simon, she must believe him capable of freeing her. But to do that, he would have to either physically reach her(By ascending the thing he recently found out about, no less), or change humanity, and more specifically the church, greatly(Which he's been trying since before the game begins.)

Anyway, more about the goddesses. The EFiOD theory also ties together certain other goddesses, though. Tertia; The goddess of the Dwarves. They see her as the earth goddess, but humans also see Ivala as the only goddess; It's just their religion. Tertia is the goddess of the dwarves, a dying race, largely impotent. It makes sense that Tertia would die, with this theory. The Mother, as well, has been greatly impacted by her children. Most elves are vain and proud, because the Mother created them best. The Mother... Shares the sentiment, to say the least. The elves are also aloof and care little for the rest of the world, while the Mother is so detatched as to not even care about the Darghelon-Gheldaron issue. Antiala has barely appeared, but it was specifically in defense of the Zirantians from the Fucklord. There aren't many major points made in Zirantia, but one sentiment stands out to me. Tons of Zirantians make the point of defending other zirantians; From the one in Yhillin who aids you in saving another zirantian, to the (terrible, sexist) people who echo the sentiment of keeping women out of dangerous jobs, to even the ambassador trying to set up a stronger defense pact to protect more zirantians.

There is a little oddity with the goddesses and the races, though. The elves say there's a goddess for every race, save for orcs. So far, they've been right, and of 6 core races, and 6 mentioned goddesses, it should be right, right? Well, it is. Some have just changed a bit over time. The goddesses and their races are; Ivala-Humans, Mother-Elves, Tertia-Dwarves, Antiala-Zirantians, Mithyn-?, Zelica-?, ?-Halflings, ?-Succubi, and then we have the Goddess of Magic... Which isn't a race(Damnit elves, you had one job!). Zelica and Mithyn stand out. Many speculate Mithyn to be the goddess of succubi, a sentiment I agree with, but for largely different reasons. Yes, she's cute, has wings, and dresses like a succubus. But my reason is actually this; Zelica is mentioned by Mithyn as uncaring. The Goddess of Magic doesn't bother with worship, only power. And the Halflings were mentioned as not having a goddess, but on occasion using magic to seem like gods in ancient times. There's an odd cross-section here as a goddess of the halflings who didn't have her race worship her, goes unknown outside of cults who know her for giving them power, and continues into a modern day. This would make Zelica the goddess of halflings, and Mithyn the goddess of succubi.

TLDR1: Ivala is mysterious goddess, symbolically enslaved by humanity, blesses Simon. Mithyn=Succubus Goddess, Zelica=Halfling Goddess=Goddess of Magic. Mortals effect the goddesses as much as the other way around.

But, let's take a few steps down the tower, and talk about the Chosen and Ginasta. The Chosen are interesting; Warriors wielding Divine power, who heal quickly and grow quickly in power, as shown by Kai in the prologue. They all seem to have the same personality, more or less, and when their soul is threatened to be examined, they die. It's certainly interesting, and(Connecting it to the above theories) well within the church's power to create, including a failsafe to cover their tracks. Ginasta, though, is a little harder to explain; A power rivalling incubus kings, but not necessarily a sort of shard-bearer. She tells odd stories, as well; She implies to Simon that she has no proof of shards being destroyed, even though she took the shard of the Skullcrusher. What happened to the shard? It wasn't taken by another IK, because that would've led to one IK becoming ridiculously more powerful, which didn't happen(To our knowledge). Ginasta is also free, so it wasn't taken by anything that would take her as a trophy of some sort. It also wasn't destroyed, because then she would have her proof for Simon. It's... Odd. She didn't absorb it, but perhaps she has a contact or hiding place of sorts. Her power is a bit easier to explain, at least, and might lead to our answer. She is the reverse of Sabitha... Sort of. She's an atheist, not a mage of sorts, and commands divine power. She isn't blessed by the church or Ivala, because Hester doesn't even react to her at the Gathering, and Ivala is placing her bets on the "worthless man". Sabitha seems to be some sort of... Whatever you fight in the tower. For the sake of this, we'll say Incophate, because that word was used in certain names. Sabitha is a powerful resident of this area of the tower, which is notably the opposite direction of the goddesses. Ginasta wields power of the upper-tower. This is also how she was able to escape her cell; She didn't command her power, she just flooded the system with the pseudo-infinite energy of the tower, and escaped in a magical explosion, as attested by the chosen. She doesn't seem to be aware of the tower, or if she is, she makes no mention of it. Perhaps this was her method of destroying shards, and simply didn't want Simon to know about it? Dunno, this is a weaker paragraph.

TLDR2: Chosen are weird, Ginasta uses Upper-Tower-Power, something's fishy with Skullcrusher's shard.

Next step on the tower; The middle of it, and... The Incubus Kings? What? Yep, the Incubus Kings are here. Mostly because; Think of it, how could Sexual-Butnotalways-not_necessarily_evil- soul shards be the utter antithesis(And therefore the bottom of the tower) of the goddesses? What even is the opposite of sex? Chastity? That would be lust(And they certainly have a lot of that), but it seems multiple IK's have nothing to do with sex. The Anak is never shown to have that interest, and the Blood Lord isn't necessarily sexual, he's just a brute. No, I think it comes down to sex-symbolism here; What IS sex, symbollically? Most people think it's just sinful, but sex is how you bring about life; Many cultures label sex as such, with creation and fertalization and the like. But sex is seen as being strange, sinful, and wrong in many places. Most of us will agree that creating things and bringing pleasure are good things; Most will also agree that sex is strange and sinful, which is a bad thing. The point is that it creates things, but it's not 100% good. It's a mix. So, the Incubus Kings, who can wield sex as a weapon, land in the middle of the tower. They also exist naturally in the world, because while Simon got his shard from the tower(Thanks Riala :) ), it doesn't seem to be that way for the others. Esthera says it's a waste of time, once you see it, it's pointless, which would imply her shard came from somewhere else. Of course it has ties to the tower, but it isn't necessarily from it. While that's my theory on the actual nature of the IK's, I suppose I could also say right now; The Lustlord isn't really what the succubi think he is. A few guesses could be made, but it's not a god, and while it COULD be an IK, it's definitely not the living Lustlord, because then he would've been able to do something to Ginasta. He could have existed in some form, and may in fact still exist, but it's not him.

TLDR3: Lustlord(IK) isn't Lustlord(God), Incubus Kings aren't the opposite of the goddesses. That's about it.

Now we reach slightly below the base of the tower, and the location in which Simon and co. visit. The home of the Incophates, these are things that bear some touch of the lower tower's power, likely increasing as you go deeper. Sabitha comes from here, though likely lower. This also introduces a third type of shard; I'll call it the Demon shard. The Incubus Shards and Goddess Shards didn't repel or destroy eachother, as would happen with heat and cold, or matter and antimatter. Instead, via some nice fucking, they were used to support and increase the other's effects. A Demon Shard would do no such thing. It would obliterate the opposite shard, and vice-versa, but it would likely have some negative confluence with the Incubus shard. Perhaps it would make sex less satisfying, and raise an IK's bloodlust. It would be interesting to see, to say the least.

TLDR4: Lower on the tower, there will be another type of shard.

Now, let's talk about the bottom of the tower; The Demon Lords. The Demon Realm is actually visited a few times; They're some real assholes, but it completes the thought. Simon is an IK, so if IK's were at the bottom of the tower, they would command Demons, to some degree. But nope, nothing. Demons are lower on the tower, and so you go as low as possible to find your "Demon-God". Simon has the pleasure of  hearing one in the tower. A being with absolute hatred of all creation. Though... He isn't alone. There are 6(Or, perhaps, were 6). Counterparts to the Goddesses. For each goddess created a race, so too will each Demon Lord destroy a race; the Demon who spoke to Simon would be the "HumanDemonLord", as it spoke to Simon, a human, with Malice. Now, I mention that there WERE 6, not ARE 6. This is because more have likely joined their ranks, as more Demon Shards were found. A Goddess or Incubus Shard can be rejected or controlled, but the Demon Shard cannot, so more demon lords will rise over time. How many are there now? There's no way to say. For thematic reasons, we'll say 6. It's like a Yin-Yang dichotemy, as Robin actually hypothesizes in Yhillin. During one conversation with Simon, she speaks on how the Arcane and Divine magics interplay, but how Succubus magic is usually opposed with Divine, and in this circumstance, Demon and Divine were opposed on an objective, undeniable scale.

TLDR5: Demon Lords.

Now, we get to where Simon fits into everything. Simon is an Incubus King, blessed by Ivala, with access to the Tower. He has met a goddess, that being the Mother, and has been spoken to(indirectly) by the Goddess of Halflings, and has been contacted by 1 demon lord. The goddess of humans wants him to change humanity to free her. I can't call any story beats that will actually happen, but the possibilities are many for Simon. If I had to guess, he will add one of everything to his harem, one way or another. A goddess or two, a Ginasta/Ginasta-like being, an Incophate, and even a demon lord... Probably not in that order.