Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-29984007-20171228223854/@comment-29984007-20171230222935

Lostone2 wrote: What do you think about a middle ground? In these cases we could split the information between the Walkthrough page (or the Quests page): just the list there and in the Secrets stats page the Jade Sabotage variable. Sounds reasonable? But lets review what it doesn't belong there a bit more (maybe with a list or similar). that was my origial idea. on my opinion the list of the thing to move in the hidden stats are: ardoheim road clean up can be delete and put the raw info in the walkthrough page. the bounty hunter list can be placed in the quest page.
 * withered mountain reclutament score
 * yarra "go manipulation" in feroholm
 * jade sabotage score
 * empress approval score (yarra path)
 * elven investigation score
 * zirantia investigation score

So you're proposing to create some kind of Annex for the guide? We move all the War stats there? Because that could work for most of them (not Arclkent Acceptance in my opinion) and we could always move back some of the ohers if they have relevance later (SL has insinuated that Aram CD could be problematic if it's too low, for instance). To be fair at the time I have some doubts when I started to add some of them. Maybe it was a mistake from my part. this works only for the war because the event is enough compartmentalized and a specific page works well, for the other don't fit enough, the states score can be put in a extra page, but can be leave in it, putting in the end of the page (this smooth out the problem of a huge list in the mid of the page with low interest for the normal use of the page themselve)

I think that this last part is trickier for me to accept. The thing is that we don't know about how big the impact of the countries' score is going to be. We don't have any evidence that it's going to be way bigger than before. I feel that is premature to assume that fact for now. But, even if you're right in the future, I still think that all the country scores belong to the Secret stats page. They are a group in my eyes and I feel that we should manage them as a group. yes, i can agree, the war stats can be put outside because the war is encapsulated, the countries score are spread all over the game and the more logical choise is leave in the hidden score, my concern is the growing of that part, and the whole page became more like a chore find a specific information drowned in a sea of list.

And the messiness factor is problematic, because splitting pages a bit of a double-edged sword. I have found people in various threads that don't like the wiki very much because it has too many pages and they have to use too many links. So for them, more pages is the wrong answer. But there is also people who see some pages as too long. Others feel that there is too much info's dispersion. There is a bit of no-win situation. I'm not convinced that more pages is the right answer. the zero rule of human interation: someone will complain, no matter of the logic o reasonable choice will be made (and don't make a choice is a choice itself). the tricky part is pick the 'good' complain and ignore the stupid and illogical one. obviously don't exist a monolitc right answer, and different path give different perk and liability. but TLS isn't a ren'py visual novel, even the most of the rpgmaker game had a more linerar progession and very low variability compare to the game of SL, this make difficult take ispiration of some other games wiki. my opinion is to limit the number of pages to the minimal number, but leaving them a good readability. and more link is alwasy better, if one want can use, but don't have any real drawback.