Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-27922759-20180508132528/@comment-29984007-20180512131235

Fallen the Corruption wrote: Being the best of a group does not make you good.

I don't disagree that he brings *change* or tries to do good, I just see him as flawed. And the thing is, while I find many thigns distasteful if one would applicate them in RL, I have to admit that he does better the situation in certain, maybe even most, cases. But where does he stop? Change is neither inherently good nor a goal.

Started a list, but not sure if that would be helpful (gonn save it though, so if yo uwant I can post it =)  )

Anyways, why do you think Hesther or Fheliel are bad? Do you think the Anak is a bad person? the information we have so far says he is either a man of temperance/balance, or someone who is doing what is neccessary to keep the bloody world alive.

Ivalas church is not inherently bad, jsut because it has some people with screwed priorities and soem degree of corruption. EVERY organisation has some degree of corruption, that is one of the major reasons Janine went on board with the plan in the first place!

Simon may be the most powerful of those who try to bring good, but he is not the only one. He is also not neccessarily the best of them.

But, then again it is most likely that my different viewpoint comes from a different political/philosophical/religious position of me and thus I have a different opinion on the situation of the world itself.

the batman example isn't superficial, fear and retribution are the best weapons for him to keep the peace. he is probably way more 'dark' of simon, but try to state he is the 'bad guy'. i think you miss the point in the simon-ginasta dialogue during the war, killing tyrant isn't alwasy a good action, often they are the only thing can keep the chaos at bay. the big man is a (little) example, killing him will do greather harm to a change is attitude, ginasta enter, kill a head of state and go to the next target, the situation of the country and the inevitable fight for the power don't touch her, think the aftermath of the 3AW without simon army to keep the peace, aram and ardoheim invading the former IKD killing any succubus they see, and the orc horde roaming free to rape and pillaging anything in sight. or the yhilin situation, the 'good' queen enslaved by a bunch of nobles fools with the real mastermind hidden to do as she pleased. even the effort to destroy the shard is probable pointless, they will reapear somewhere free to take from the first fool hang around, better they will be take by people with will and drive to bend the shard to his will (and not the other way), because someone will find it for sure.

for the church, want to talk of the 'chosen' behavior? no one object the moron fools full of lust they are. you can even think they can be for real blessed by a prudish goddess? or the stineford high priestess, stamping the prostitution and any 'impure' action, but the noble brothel disguised like a inn don't fear any action, or the slaver we (can) stamp out in the first chapter had some frined in high place and they are "clean in the eyes of the Church", not all the church is corrupted but the rotten is rooted deep, and very few people try to eliminate it (even a notorius pedophile can act with impunity)

in the end i think you want simon be bad, but your position had very little proof, simon isn't the dark character you want make him, at least for the moment. simon had a heavy structurated personality, the player can do very little to change it, like you cannot 'make' simon a younger man.