Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-27713488-20170707041037/@comment-31763506-20170819062211

LordCyberForte wrote: DukeLeto7 wrote: LordCyberForte wrote: In that vein, if the Soul Shards really are the fragments of a divine being's soul, I would tend to think it would be a "god" as opposed to a true divinity. Socrates would have a field day on that sentence. How so, out of curiosity? My familiarity with Socratic thought is admittedly fairly limited, but my impression was that he was foremost concerned with sharpening definitions... It's very close to being the verbatim statement of charges made by Meletus that resulted in his forced suicide, which Socrates laid into during his defense. (Or at least the version of his defense that was written up by Plato, which Snopez.kom didn't exist to fact check.)

Plato wrote (Apology 24b):

So once again, as if this were another prosecution, let us take up their deposition. It goes something like this: "Socrates," he says, "is a criminal corrupting the youth, and he does not observe the gods whom the city observes, but rather new spiritual things."

He then goes on for a few more paragraphs claiming that it is a contradiction in terms since "spiritual things" = "gods".

That was intended as an allusion rather than a criticism, modern linguistic philosophy post-Wittgenstein basically understands meaning as synonymous with usage, so your differentiating separate usages of of "god" and "true divinity" is fine, although maybe not ideal from a point of clarity. Socrates' religious views, again through Plato, were similar to Sarai's, basically being a monotheist believing in "true divinity", precisely because the traditional Greek gods were "petulant brats" a la Orilise.

The idea that TLS "divinities" have variable powers is interesting, but I think it's been fairly clearly telegraphed that the Anak is the one attempting to "climb the tower". Another question is what exactly is a "soul" in the TLS world? The person with the most practical experience with the things, Trin, seems to think they're material and perishable...

FWIW, I was going optimistically by the July 30th update...

SierraLee wrote:

I am hopeful that we'll see the end of the war and of chapter three in August, and I don't mean the very end of August.

As that was the last time anything was said with respect to a timeframe.