Thread:Thormented/@comment-25881556-20160217084918/@comment-25881556-20160217130815

Playing around with Altina's usefulness, I ended up calculating the average mdef which is almost exceedingly low generally, with an average value of 21.81(including bosses, excluding battles that can't be won, including two huge 200 and 100 mdef enemies, in practice, about 50% of enemies have 20 or less mdef). This doesn't count the distribution of enemies mind(aka how many times a particular enemy shows up) but it's good enough to serve as a rough indicator.

Next I wanted to guesstimate how much additional mag power Altina would get from Slave/sexual equipment as opposed to Robin's pure mage setup.

Weapons : 0 (same)

Shield: 0 (Ornamental Beads vs Mystic Orb)

Head: 25 (Property Collar vs Magic Circlet)

Body: 40 (Ravishing Lingerie vs Shining/Mystic Robes)

Acc: 0 (nothing gives more)

Or a total of +65. Taking this into account.... Is how much extra you can expect on average enemies. A level 25 Robin(Approximating to Robin's level is Aka's chapter assuming low xp) with Shining Sceptre, Crumbling Tome, Yhilini Mage Cap, Shining Robes, none has 131 meaning.... Altina would have 4 less mag but it's reasonable enough to run off these numbers to make things faster I think. Altina's basic spells can stand toe to toe with Robin's lances for the most part and she can rely on storms for more enemies. ... I think perhaps I have been a bit too hard on Altina, especially since Shining Robe's defensive stats are horrible and Ravishing Lingerie is pretty easy to get (... except I always gave it to Qum since I heavily preferred having a healer... my mistake I guess) ... Hmm.

I guess I have things to reconsider about how much I like/dislike Altina... (and that's likely to get more confusing as more equipment/spells come out.)

This all changes on higher mdef enemies though, Let me toss out a couple of scenarios for the other common mdef types, 50 and 100 mdef. Edit: 199 and 274 are the numbers I get at level 30 fully boosting their equipment.

Whoops, pasted the wrong values. The difference even at 50 and 100 mdef isnt that large unless the base mag is large as well. ... Yeah there's definately a lot of unfair downplaying I was putting on Altina when she does remarkably well with some equipment changes. I don't think I'll stop thinking her storms are terrible but given her single damage output is fairly comparable to Robin's if she's given proper slave equipment, I've definately been too harsh.

... tangent: that is one LONNNNGGGG rant with numbers about how I should stop thinking Altina's damage is low. ... Useful food for thought though.

Edit: Numbers fixed to account for a difference of +65>+75