Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-29984007-20171228223854/@comment-25941257-20171230180215

The Fulminato wrote: [...]

and put in the secrets and colletibles is a factual difference? that information needed to be placed in the walkthrough page, o pehraps in the quest page, not in a secret&secret page. but the jade sabotage score is a hidden variable, not a secret, jade sabotage score is more like the 'help the poor' score in the same game section.

What do you think about a middle ground? In these cases we could split the information between the Walkthrough page (or the Quests page): just the list there and in the Secrets stats page the Jade Sabotage variable. Sounds reasonable?

But lets review what it doesn't belong there a bit more (maybe with a list or similar).

The Fulminato wrote: [...]

I totally agree, but this can be translate to the war hidden variable section, in the chapter four (for now) no one check is made for any counrty CD o the IKD Morale, instability or aramite front. all that are mute variable, heavily used in the war but ignored outside. A page can be long as needed, but the readability of the page is a important factor, the war stats are a simply a huge block anyone skip if don't interested in the war, but if one is interested to the war should go to check the war walkthrough, the only real exception is the arclent acc. but it can be fixed using that system.

So you're proposing to create some kind of Annex for the guide? We move all the War stats there? Because that could work for most of them (not Arclkent Acceptance in my opinion) and we could always move back some of the ohers if they have relevance later (SL has insinuated that Aram CD could be problematic if it's too low, for instance).

To be fair at the time I have some doubts when I started to add some of them. Maybe it was a mistake from my part.

The Fulminato wrote: [...]

My preoccupation is for putting many list to much long in the same page. like the war the country score is a themed ensemble a consisten collection of list. can be encapsulate and put in a external page without much stretch, the manly difference compared to the Simon score (social, economic, religion) is that scores are build over all the game and checked thoroughly many time and nearly all decision can change them, the countries score are changed near all the time with investment, they don't have a huge impact before chapter four and the value are build very slow (compared to the social/economic/religion). and for Yhilin in the chapter four we go over the bulk of the change, but for the new country we are at the start of the work, this is only the foundation of the whole structure...

a page is only a box with a label, more order is always better, put to much stuff inside ad the result is a messy container.

I think that this last part is trickier for me to accept. The thing is that we don't know about how big the impact of the countries' score is going to be. We don't have any evidence that it's going to be way bigger than before. I feel that is premature to assume that fact for now. But, even if you're right in the future, I still think that all the country scores belong to the Secret stats page. They are a group in my eyes and I feel that we should manage them as a group.

And the messiness factor is problematic, because splitting pages a bit of a double-edged sword. I have found people in various threads that don't like the wiki very much because it has too many pages and they have to use too many links. So for them, more pages is the wrong answer. But there is also people who see some pages as too long. Others feel that there is too much info's dispersion. There is a bit of no-win situation. I'm not convinced that more pages is the right answer.