Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-27713488-20180114010136/@comment-31763506-20180312043620

In other news, I decided to abandon my "derp" playthrough just before the Battle of Yhilin, because it was getting increasingly difficult to successfully work out what the optimally worst course of action in each situation was.

Reflecting on Anselm's ontological proof of the existence of god and the symmetrical proof of the non-existence of the devil, I concluded that, as non-existence is an imperfection and existence is a perfection; it follows the worst possible TLS playthrough would have to be one that has not been played, in consequence of it not existing, and thus the only logical course of action to ensure the worst possible game outcome was to quit. This also means that the best possible TLS walkthrough must exist, since it not existing would be worse than existing and consequently would make it less than the best possible TLS walkthrough.

That should be a great savings in labor for Rafael367.

Anyway...

I am still continuing my concurrent replay attempting to play TLS well, and this included seeing the Ch. 3 interstitial scene with Mystery Divine Being and Mithyn. I wanted to pick apart the exact wording of their conversation and try and tease out some tentative conclusions.

Apart from Zelica, who is mentioned by name but not otherwise identified, there are several distinct parties mentioned.


 * "Her", whose "eye grows ever more powerful".
 * The "Old Man", who saw inside and was broken by the knowledge. All signs point to this being Alonon.  (Who is not quite dead yet.)
 * The "Monster" who holds Zelica captive and is concealing himself while he makes his plans vis a vis the Tower. All signs, in particular the female figure who seems to be trapped in a tree in the Prologue, point to this being the Anak.
 * Then there are MDB's "captors".
 * "Our older sister", who doesn't care and has never cared.
 * And lastly "that meaningless man", who is likely to be Simon but may actually be the redheaded message board guy. (It could happen.)

Alrighty, I think all of these are different entities, and that the simplest explanation as to who they all are precludes MDB from being Ivala.

"Her" with the eye is a singular entity who is distinct from the captors of MDB and her "older sister". The captors are a plural, not a female singular and while the "older sister" is also a female singular, her not caring is in direct conflict with "her" having a form of clairvoyance that Mithyn feels the need to conceal her meeting with MDB from.

"Her" is also very powerful and getting moreso. The obvious choice for who "her" is is therefore Ivala, who would presumably be the most powerful female divine being in the universe. The "older sister" could be the Mother, but she doesn't seem all that indifferent to events in the tower and the wider world.

Mithyn's attitude towards the presumed Simon in this scene makes it less likely that she's the Goddess of Magic, who seems less dismissive of Simon when she communicates via Vera in Ari-Yhilina. Balance of probability is that Mithyn is the Succubus goddess.

That leaves a lot of loose threads dangling. Antiala is unaccounted for in this conversation, as is the Goddess of Magic, we have no idea who MDB's "captors" are, although I lean towards the Church of Ivala, and we don't know who MDB is. I'm leaning towards her being a Goddess of Love in contrast to Ivala's domain of humanity or purity (or both).