Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-31763506-20180626010448/@comment-27713488-20180626224820

User pages are searchable, but not with the default search parameters. This is well and good. However, I tested this and discovered one flaw: due to Wikia bugs, the comments on the articles are lost, apparently permanently. Although the comment count still shows the old number. :/ So I wouldn't recommend doing that.

Preventing comments on an individual page does not seem to be possible. The downside of using shiny Wikia add-ons instead of solid MediaWiki functionality, I guess.

I would recommend the following: 2804:431:B701:3979:851F:95AC:D626:3A94 wrote: There is value in that, but for a player that is trying to get the most out of the game, their best chance while using the wiki is having like 5+ different tabs open at all times and carefully going over them to make sure they don't miss or mess up anything, and its not that difficult to screw up since so many pages are ordered differently (Investments and Relationship Points are displayed in the order they become available, Secrets and Collectibles are displayed in the order the map they are located in is introduced but not necessarily the order the secrets become available, Secret Stats is ordered in what I think is the variable ID). Ordering secrets and collectibles by when they become available is a separate proposal, but one worth considering in a separate thread. I don't think it was ever really discussed - it's just that there was a time when no part of the game was revisited, so there was no difference between location and chronology.
 * Re-title the pages "Rafael's playthrough" rather than "Rafael's walkthrough", or optionally "Rafael's playthrough guide" if we want to hedge a bit
 * Create a new template explaining the exacting nature of the guide, and stick it at the top of all pages.

Secret stats is mostly ordered by when they become relevant to gameplay, it seems. I'm not sure there's a problem there. And sometimes useful information about the decisions just gets scattered in that cluster, i.e the other day I was trying to min-max the social score to help with my chapter 4 decisions but I had a hard time finding out what affected the Ambassador's evaluation during Govern Yhilin, I only ended up finding it in one of the items under the "Yhilin" variable. At some point there was a decision to keep "secret stats" out of other article pages, and I believe we have been reaping the negative effects of that policy ever since. (Actually, I'm not sure if it was ever formally abolished or if people just quietly decided to start ignoring it. Anyone know? If not, we should probably start a thread about it.) I understand that a "True" walkthrough is impossible due to the unfinished state of the game, but people will still appreciate an alternative that is easy to follow but also more "complete" than the current walkthrough. A "true" walkthrough is impossible regardless because different players will want different things. Most notably, some players get off on whoring Qum and dominating Varia and similar morally questionable acts. But also little things, like maybe somebody really has a thing for statues and wants to fund them whenever possible. And what is someone to do if they played suboptimally until consulting the walkthrough, and now can't follow all the walkthrough's recommendations? Start over? Just go fuck themself?

There's only a One True Path up to the Merchant Camp. Also correct me if I'm wrong but, aside from the investment decisions, Rafael's walkthrough only starts being wack during Simon's route right? No, Rafael's breakdown happened because of the retcon of effects from Qum being whored out, which is pretty early in the list of meaningful decisions. Arakhne wrote: There's a portion of the fanbase, whose exact size is hard to pinpoint but who's sometimes quite vocal in the comments, that wants to play the game only once while still getting "the most of it". I sympathize greatly with this viewpoint, even if it's not my exact take on this particular game. It doesn't even preclude one from replaying afterward. DukeLeto7 wrote: I think the absence of a link on the main page is due to the fact that it's a work-in-progress. This. It will certainly merit a link when it's more complete and polished.

The idea of a separate walkthrough that focuses on a recommended path and particular goals is okay, but someone would have to take 'ownership' of it and actually keep running saves so it's grounded in reality. We'd have to decide what goals it would have (don't do mean things? do mean things if we get a big enough payout?) I still don't think it's good to for it to completely lack side notes for players who can't follow along completely because they made some different choices.

There's certainly room to improve the main walkthrough page, but it will never help players whose primary problem is decision paralysis.