Talk:Qum D'umpe/@comment-181.164.125.80-20170210185909/@comment-89.177.8.235-20170211143417

Spin it however you like Decanter, exploiting a vulnerable charater to potentially do more good is still evil. Did you "forget", how she said that she was mocked by other succubi she knew before she was captured, and then she was further humilitated by the soldeiers that captured her. Now she looks up to Simon as someone who likes her and cares for her and yes, she understand it's to achieve a greater good, but fact of the matter is, she doesn't like it at all, the experience reminds her how she felt before and ultimately, you don't actually know if it does help you achieve some greater good. That's why it's still evil act in my book. I mean what does it do for you in the end? The 5k ProN I mean. It gets you 15k more at the start of chapter 2. What does that do for you? Helps you fund/buy 1, maybe 2 more investments. Honestly, can you say that achieving that was really worth it? (It would be just 1 more investment in my case for example) Because I honestly can't really say whether the anti-corruption campaign (what I would invest in, which I didn't otherwise) is more good than what she was forced to go through again. Maybe you feel justified doing so, sure, but even then, you did some evil to do more good. You can't deny that doing that is simply bad/wrong. And no hard feeling against you or anything, we can just agree to disagree if you feel that way, I just felt you really understated what was going on there.

Also, the point the guy above me made about Altina/Varia is not really comperable, because they end up being happy in both cases. They are just different, but who can say which version of them is better, objectively that is? I mean yes, the cockwhore Altine feels just wrong for me, but still... she's happy that way and it's not really painful for her or anything to live like that. I for example like dominated Varia more and as far as I'm concerened, that bitch deserved far worse for what she did (I mean how many bandits have you killed on the way for simply attacking you? and you don't know their reasoning... on the other hand Varia did what she did just because she was unhappy with her life, not because she was starving to death or anything).