Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-27713488-20181103233945/@comment-39332473-20190725065044

DukeLeto7 wrote: Turning around and arguing the opposite side of the question, the Young Tanurak/Young Ulrissa hypothesis has to deal with the question of dragons.

If they became extinct in Simon's lifetime, and the fact that there are still visible skeletons in places like Aram seems to suggest that (unless they're fossils); you'd think Simon would know a bit more about them. Then and again, educated people in Arclent seemed not to know that there were significantly more than one Incubus King in circulation, so if dragons were primarily tower dwelling beings, they may not have been encountered by most folks. I have two primary objections to the YU/YT hypothesis, and this is part of it. None of the group have any idea of what Ulrissa is talking about. If a fundamental magic particle used to exist but does no longer, it seems like Robin would have known, at the very least. Unless, of course, it was something that existed so long ago that it has passed out of knowledge.

This relates to my other objection: from what we know of the way the tower works, power in the tower is related to power in the real world (This also explains why most of the other walkers are rulers of nations. 'Power is power', as our erstwhile Wendis snack says.). It stands to reason that Tanurak and Ulrissa both would have had great influence in the world outside the tower at one point. Tanurak, at least, seems like the kind of person who would be remembered.

But he isn't. No one has heard of him, and no one has heard of Ulrissa. This speaks to a great deal of time passing since their conflict, generations at least.

(The third indicator is that Tanurak is said to be older than the Sage of Ghenalon by the Anak, both in terms of years lived and in terms of total lifespan, but bringing that up feels like cheating)