Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27460754-20160124200151/@comment-27713488-20160401061425

I don't think we will see any bad ends that are delayed. If we screw it up irrevocably, I think we will know fairly quickly. Anything else is inconsiderate game design.

Lostone2 wrote: Argenten wrote: I am so sick of this pos dumping and ignoring my postings if I am afk more than 5 minutes and not allowing me to copy and paste in case of previous issue. I'll try to respond to you later Ripett as you do bring up some good and interesting points, but right now I've already had too much of my time shat down the drain. Well, a possibility that we have open is to try to use a normal wiki page for these kind of discussions... but I rather not to go there, because it would probably get more than a bit messy. Wikia is shitty; nothing new here. Trying to quote a second person overwrites an entered message too. I just compose in a separate program.

Argenten wrote: And she's evidently putting her hopes into Simon, which is a sensible position for the game. :P This seems the most reasonable interpretation, although it's interesting that Mithyn would call a shard-bearer "meaningless". Zelica I'm going to go with being the Anak's prisoner that he's harvesting her theoson for, possibly to get to the other goddesses for his harem? Would certainly be an interesting take on his having an interest in 'theology'. Also would make the title of 'monster' for the person holding her fit, as it's hard to find another way to describe a being that's imprisoning a goddess, siphoning her power and doing so to gain lordship over her sisters. Depends on whether you consider those goddesses to be good, I guess. The Church's take on Ivala is kind of obnoxious and harmful - Ivala is omnipotent and there are no true gods but she, "it is all Ivala's will in the end" even though there is suffering everywhere, etc. One can only hope that Ivala herself is more benevolent and less narcissistic. At this point I'm assuming so, although in the beginning I was kind of rooting for a scenario in which Simon forces Ivala to acknowledge him as a far greater force for good than any ten Chosen.

I also agree about Zelica, and honestly it surprises me that people didn't see it coming that the Anak's interest in theology is practical, not theoretical.

The line about "her eye grows ever more powerful" probably refers to Xestris. The War Vaults seems like a lot of work for essentially a plot related helmet and other loot that even the other characters go 'wow...this was not what I was expecting.'. Still, good to get it out of the way and have it than not. I suspect the Incubus King set will be cool to have eventually. Ripett wrote: Vhala is certainly an interesting character. I agree with Argenten that at the moment her sacrifice doesn't really seem like a sacrifice. That said, she's more then likely been an Unwoman for close to (over?) 50 years so her responses to Nalili were somewhat expected, especially considering there is no known way to reverse her "condition" at the moment (we can hope Simon will find a way while trying to help Dari). I don't think Vhala ever characterizes her transformation as a sacrifice. Rather the opposite, really.

As for helping them... I think it's reasonable to expect any cute girl with a bust image and multiple faces will join the harem eventually.

Argenten wrote: I can't find her a sympathetic character because of the line about the innocence of a child and the wisdom of age that "sages spend their whole lives searching for.". My first response there is 'so you took a shortcut.' and that's what it feels like when we find out she had no great attachment to what she lost and didn't have to struggle for the 'enlightenment' she received. Carina, for all her faults, was willing to risk everything for what she believed in and put that into practice, including putting herself at the risk of death and corruption with the seed. Vhala feels like a person that took the easy/safe route. You have such a hate-on for Vhala... Taking a faster route to your destination is called efficiency, and is a virtue. And I find it difficult to characterize going off to fight the armies of one Incubus King, shadowing another Incubus King and confronting him face-to-face, and breaking into a prison despite knowing she'd be executed by her own people if her involvement was discovered... "the easy/safe route". I do like the idea of their being an architect succubus and will agree that was a bit of foreshadowing in the bits of Megail's sarcasm and Nalili's optimism. Don't know if it'll be the one we met in Rodak As for architect succubi, I dunno. Yarra does comment that succubi are bad at "sustaining things". But if we do get one, it probably won't be the Rodak one, since that one didn't have unique graphics.