Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-39332473-20190808194309/@comment-29984007-20200105225944

Maldon k wrote: or maybe that the anak will go against simon no matter what, I don't think basically controling 2 continents will go very well with the idea of balance that the anak wants to protect, also the fact that we have wendis on our side might tip him off. you miss the point. the country scores are the overall measure of much simon is committed to the specific country and how much it gain (not only economically) from simon's works. no score, no commitment, no work, no investment. we have a score for every outer country in the world (the renthnor wilds aren't a cohesive political entity, so no score), even tatseni a country we never interact in any meaningful way.

He has also said that he would have another conversation with simon if he wanted to live longer, basically meaning that simon is already disturbing balance, just in a way that would lead to more balance in the long term if he doesn't stay around for too much if he is realy obsessed by balance, and balance alone why kill the sage of ghenalon and leave tanurak alive? he had other agenda, obviously. and don't forget in the meeting with fheliel he say interested in the "study of theology". zelica is trapped, a recent event... he is one of the strongest player on the board. and that he do nothing even with the fucklord starting gain power in the demonic realm/tower and he had a lot of time to watch and strike well before estaven was more the a nuisance. if he had leave the IE to destroy half of a continent without think twice the eventual disaster in erosia after the FK fall will be nothing. but he still did nothing. he want preserve the balance, for now. but his endgame goal is unknow. i don't trust him.

I'm sorry dude, but I don't see how what you say contradicts what I'm saying, the IK items are yet another collectible that are really out of the way to get. i don't think SL will overlap colletible, the ancient IK's item will be relevant for the end of the game, we already know that, so i find hard to think the shining swords will have the same role.

the most straightforward way is fuse all of them and use the "power sludge" to craft something, more sword, more "sludge" more item. I can be right, I can be wrong. but the use will not overlap the other colletibles.

I also don't know what task could there be that only wendis can do where she has to tank a lot of damage, and even if that does happen I can't imagine that giving her a very fragile body can be anything but negative, and that it won't affect the ending even if it isn't on a major way. The game has stated multiple times that she can and wants to destroy the world, she also has her "evil" side wich might take over if we don't do a good enough job making her a good body. i think you are unimaginative, think about the "airship counter" in chapter 4, we think about using the airship for war in erosia, but they grant a bonus in a diplomacy section with the elven kingdom.

Ok, didn't knew about that. But I still stand my point, it's just that the collectible in ouroboros is character interactions rather than out of the way objects, that's basically the same system as contorting stones but in a way that works really really well with the games themes. If anything it just adds weight to my opinion.

the contorted stone don't have any deep significance with the game, the shining swords are tied to the chosen (and the tower), one the main mystery of the game, outside beign colletibles i don't see any real similitudes, contorted stones are free to take (near all of them), shining swords are often reward for "good" playing the sections.