Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-39332473-20190808194309/@comment-31763506-20191022005811

Just to be clear, I don't actually think Tanurak is going to turn out to be the original Lustlord. It's just an interesting idea.

As Fulminato notes above, Ulrissa can't realistically predate the formation of Givini as a state, which happened after whatever went down with the founding of the Church of Ivala. Tanurak and Ulrissa were contemporaries which suggests he probably isn't older than the Church of Ivala. (We're also assuming SL has the understanding of nationality that Fulminato and I seem to share, that it's generally a top down affair; so whatever the various culturally related inhabitants of what became Givini way back when were something like the Anglo-Saxons, Franks and Lombards were to modern English, French and Italians.)

I'm also not sure that what we've heard about the old Lustlord is consistent with CHAOTIC Evil, which is pretty clearly Tanurak's bag by his own statements and actions and the descriptions of those who know him. OG Lustlord's (OK, that's canon now...) implied treatment of Mithyn suggests someone like Simon who was on the Lawful end of the alignment wheel.

There's a lot of known unknowns here though.


 * How long has Ivala been stuck on the mountain?
 * Was this before or after the emergence of the Church of Ivala?
 * How long was Tanurak around before he started hanging with Ulrissa?
 * How long before the beginning of the Arclent Era and the at least roughly contemporaneous beginning of Ivalanism did the OG Lustlord get capped?

Chapter 5 is going to be interesting.