Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27886747-20160611191524/@comment-27713488-20160622040415

Ah, Okra has beaten me to much of what I wanted to say myself. :) I basically agree with everything he has said, and only have a few things to add. Okra-caprese wrote: I'd like to propose that all Yhilin-Battle-Guides be made separate from the Secrets/Collectibles page. It's a pretty long battle, and things get so situational/dependent on choices before and during the battle that every guide takes up more space than most of the current page. Indeed, and we must consider that there will only be more use of hidden variables and mechanics in the future. Suppose there is another complicated sequence like the Battle - shall we also add that into this page? It would be very unwieldy at triple the size or more!

And already I wonder if that page isn't a little diluted already, if perhaps it wouldn't be better split into two pages like "secrets and collectibles" and "hidden scores and mechanics"... that is a topic for another time, but the point is that it is already a very overworked page. I'm also looking at the post where Lostone2 mentioned a prior agreement, but it looks to me as if it's only agreed to keep spoiler material separate from the rest of posted content. Including the variables we cover doesn't give away future content, it helps people do their best on the content we already have. Furthermore, I don't see an issue in mentioning variables elsewhere as long as we provide due warning that they're going to be covered. This, too. This isn't about spoiling the story. The closest any guide has come to spoilers is "there is a hint this has unknown consequences".

Besides, Sierra warned us that to make a guide we should look "under the hood" at the secret mechanics. That they would be very tangled and ugly to describe. The Battle is extremely difficult to give advice on otherwise, because every person will come to it with a different combination of the many, many factors in play. Furthermore, I don't see an issue in mentioning variables elsewhere as long as we provide due warning that they're going to be covered. Right. If people don't want to see mechanics stuff without a warning, we can put a warning. Maybe we can make a template to be put at the top of pages that may contain such details. What I propose is this: everyone who wants to post a guide will post their guide, and versions will be linked to in the walkthrough with descriptions. Yes, I agree. While I understand the desire to integrate all guides, and it would even be my preference as well, reading up in this thread indicates there were already some unreconciled differences about how to do it. If two people want to integrate, or someone decides theirs has become obsolete, that's great. We already had two walkthroughs, after all. I don't want anything to get forced off the wiki by overly restrictive rules.