Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27460754-20160124200151/@comment-27713488-20160215060719

Argenten wrote: how did you get multiple quotes? I cannot manage it and just keep wiping the reply clean with the latest quote. Heh. If you "view source" on my posts you can see how I did it exactly, but I basically just manually copied and pasted the quotation markup. Imperfectly, at that. You can object as strongly as you wish, doesn't mean it will convince me. I certainly did not go out of my way to direct this at you in any manner and the way you seem to be taking this personally doesn't change my opinion. (if I am wrong on how I am reading your response, I do apologize for that, reading tone is text is a weakness of mine.) Eh, no, I was needlessly heated and I apologize for that. It's not personal, exactly, since I'm not personally taking any meds or doing anything else comparable... but it does bother me to see strong words like "sociopath" misused. And I don't believe there's anything sacred about the natural order, even the natural order of the soul... though in this fantasy universe, maybe there is something sacred about it; who knows.

Anyway, I'm with Simon on the matter of Vhala; she's explicitly not a zealot, or she'd have given the kill order on Simon instead of trying to work with him. Recall that Sarai said of Simon's soul that she'd "never felt anything so antithetical to Ivala." No zealot should abide that. a good part of what freaked me out was that they are zealouts and believe this is the right thing for people to go through to the point where their fringe members are advocating the sterility of humanity via this method. Their fringe members, perhaps. But Simon's comparison to succubi comes through here - recall that it's a mainstream belief in the Orgasmic Empire that master-slave relationships are the foundation of society. That's pretty bad, yet we have humans and succubi working together regardless. It's not right to judge an entire group by its worst members. our first exposure to them was the "zombie house" when we rescue Megail. And before you pull it out, yes I am aware they make a point in the game to mention how far gone they were and that isn't necessarily...but that remains the fact that they still started out like Vhala and all that it took to reach that point was time as far as we know. I had the impression there was something different about those. Vhala has been an Unwoman for a long time yet seems fine, and Sarai says "Those Unmen you met here in Ari-Yhilina... something is different, I don't like it." It doesn't completely rule out your position, but it's part of why I disagree. Tyne is interesting and I agree it doesn't look like she'll be joining, but at the same time I can see her being a "alliance marriage" down the line. Or she could just be the young girl that Simon mentors into a good ruler. Either works for me. Simon does say his feelings for her are fatherly. And as Robin puts it, "Is 'acting fatherly' what we call it now?" But you know... that's all just gonna be super ironic in retrospect when Robin finally gets hers.

I wonder if Yarra was really only thinking of Tyna when she asked him how he felt about "bright young things"... When I said humbling, I should have made it clear I meant it in the sense that Antarion seems to be getting set up to learn that the dueling hall is not the same as a battlefield, as Simon makes a point to mention that. Oh, right. I was thinking more along the lines of "humbling Mherin", but that makes sense.