Board Thread:Off-topic Discussion/@comment-34929634-20180307190349/@comment-120.136.5.104-20180311094405

Duke: Arguably, every action we take in an NSFW-oriented context is suable, especially what clickbait is in general. Assuming a consumer is sue-happy obviously. The stories that come out of the US, yeesh.

Decanter said: > it's just that your original post is somewhat hard to follow and I'd discourage using it as a model for future efforts.

Yeah. I made that post with a read on what the forum members were like, and fell way, way, way short of the mark. Total misread. That's fine, it's good feedback. Thank you for that.

> For that particular thing people do sometimes make suggestions that SL doesn't follow up on for lack of time, energy, or inclination - for example, it's been mentioned that there are various boards on Reddit that would be interested to know about some of SL's work.

Out of interest, what's stopping various members of the community for posting stuff for her in those subs? I have guesses, that's about it.

>  If you want to have a brainstorming discussion or aggregate information about something, that's concrete enough that people can understand what you're trying to do and engage with it. (Though if you left it at "let's do research" the likely response would be "how?")

Fair. What I mean by "research" is "finding the necessary information, including information about gaps in our methodology (that we didn't know was there beforehand)." The process involves aggregation of information and brainstorming, but the timesink is mostly in finding relevant things in general...and gruntwork testing. A definition error. Thank you.

> As I think Leto was getting at, there's a middle ground between "lengthy blog post" and "clickbait" that ends up somewhere interesting yet concise.

Yes, that's long-form content. I'd check proposed posts on Medium - it gives a time (e.g. 3 min read) after publication and you'd want to aim for around 3-5 min reads (that's length of post subtracting pictures). Or...hm. I'll have to check timings to look at averages in NSFW journalism (copy-paste into Medium, publish privately, record timings, delete post, repeat until satisfied.) Grunt work, yay. And depending on the people you're writing it for, the style definitely changes. Intelligentsia? Talk about narrative hooks. Wider audience who cares about gameplay? Slightly clickbaity based on genre of game (more and more clickbaity the wider the audience gets)

But the descriptions on Steam have word limit caps, or at least an unstated limit where people's attention turns off entirely (which is why the trailers are so important.)

DukeLeto2 said: > That doesn't obviate the need for having marketing messages that are well crafted, short and on-message.

Absolutely. But we'd need to define what "on-message" means. And also who we're aiming for.

> Having taken a couple of stabs at popularizing blogs of my own writing, and having watched them all drop dead out of the gate with less traffic than one would expect to get for a list of "10 most incomprehensible German Idealist philosopher quotes... the one from Fichte will SHOCK you"... I really am sure I can't provide anything other than constructive(?) criticism.

​​​​​​Hahahaha, that's great. Honestly, that's amazing, lol. Especially if you got ANY traffic whatsoever, that actually pushes you up to the top 80%-ish? of blogs in general. I'm assuming you didn't do any SEO at all (beyond the clickbaity stuff, which is keywords), so. ​​​​​