Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-39332473-20190808194309/@comment-77.111.246.77-20190909155811

TheEndingOfTheWords wrote:

I suppose it's possible, but there are problems with this scenario - how do you pass along this secret? Like, if Hester has Ivala captive, how does Hester let her successor know about it? "By the way, sister, before I give you the pope hat, I've got Ivala tied up in the basement and you can't let her out. Also, we're running low on wine for the sacrament."

The only way that can possibly make sense is that Ivala wants to be tied up in the basement and has a one-on-one talk with each of her captor-protectors, to convince them of the necessity. Another problem - Ivala threatned to tell on Tanurak, and this seemed to rattle him. Why would Tanurak be even a little concerned about Hester being told of his mischef? Well that's why this is a crazy speculation thread! But there are a few ways to address the first issue.

One is if the church is treating the captive (term captive needs to be rethought for this discussion, as she is not constrained in core of the universe, just whatever is being done to her is constraining her on the holy plane) Ivala as just a poweful entity, not a goddess they are worshipping. A sufficiently pragmatic priestess like Esmera would have absolutely no issues with using it. Ivala is being worshipped similar to transcendant dieties in our universe. Learning that she is simply a powerful being from another dimension that can be trapped and siphoned for power would cause crisis of faith in any believer.

The other issue is that 3AW wall is obviously Ivalan, and church was the one who deployed it. So it has to be involved at some level. This leads to another possibility - it is technically possible that the leadership itself is not aware of the effects of their actions in another plane. If we take the quote from Mithyn: "You know how close your captors are, Tower or no Tower" it seems to me at at least at that point, the captors were not Tower walkers.

I just got back to TLS and (After an over a chapter-long break) and not currently a donor, so I am limited by 0.44.6 and I can't comment on the interlude.