Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-39332473-20190808194309/@comment-36874080-20190820113849

The Scoutman wrote: If you want to argue that the elves are wrong and that they are denying their "true nature" as a society, I can only think of Hilstara's reply to Yuanon, I don't have the exact quote but it is among the lines of "Seems to me that nature already took its course, you just don't like the results."

I don't like Yuanon, he's such a strawman. This is basic stuff. I don't ask him to be able to go full Heidegger on inauthenticity, but being able to come up with an answer to that isn't that hard. "Well, disease and senescence are part of nature too, and that's what's happening here. If we don't even try to cure ourselves it won't end well."

Regarding Vhala and the unpeople transformation, my point is that the transformation doesn't inherently grant more peace, while her process was botched, you just gotta look at Dari to realize losing one's sexuality doesn't inherently make them more peaceful. Vhala gained peace from the transformation because, overall, she did not enjoy her sexuality.

Dari's mainly traumatized by the fact that she was robbed of her choice and of a part of herself against her consent, and she wants it undone. I can easily see such a traumatism being stronger than the peace of mind of the transformation.

It's a bit unfair to Vhala to say that she became an unwoman due to not liking sex in the first place. It robs her life choices of their impact. She was ok with sex, she just likes what she gained better.

TheEndingOfTheWords wrote: If Alonon is to be healed of his despair, I think he will be healed by a question.

I'm not sure if Alonon's impotence is something to be healed. The Fisher King resents his wound, while Alonon doesn't.

DukeLeto7 wrote: I thought the implication was that it was happening the same way Simon "changed" Aka's soul. The succubi are learning to be better people and that's a change that is being reflected in their fundamental natures.

Could also be a purely cultural change, succubi learning to live with the other races in a purely social way. It could be argued that the Incubi influence their succubi, but the AoA's succubi are a counter-example. The more time passed, the more they resented him and his ways.