Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-39332473-20190808194309/@comment-36170150-20200526145315

Seriathus wrote: Also Altina is before Varia, and both of them are before Carina, which is kinda weird.

I guess we can't really infer much from the position of people in the harem list except that we may have already met them. Carina and Simon only start a romantic relationship after the free-roam session, Altina and Varia are a bit of a toss up because it is up to the player which one of them Simon will get first.

My general theory is that the order is related to when the woman developed sexual desire for Simon, not necessarily when she acted on it (also it has to be after he got the shard, no past loves skipping ahead), it seems to work for most of it, Robin comes after Nalili but before Uyae, which encompasses everything from the reunion hug to her confessing in chapter 3, I think Mythin will be second in the "Others" list; just the leader tab that gets a bit fucky:

We have to assume Esthera is second in the leader tab, but then why is Sarai 3rd and Fheliel 4th? We first meet Esthera during the party split so the sexual development with Sarai and Fheliel has to happen after the reunion but before the elf trip (where we get Lynine and Orilise, who are 5th and 6th).

With Sarai, after the conquest of Yhilin she starts mentioning she's been giving a lot of thought about Ivala and her position in the world, and also she starts joking a lot more about the prospect of "sacrificing" herself to the Doom King, so I don't think it is too much of a stretch to say the conquest of Yhilin made her consider the possibility of having a sexual relationship more seriously, which made her start desiring Simon.

With Fheliel it is way trickier, we don't actually meet her until after the Zirantia trip, and we only briefly talk with her via magic sphere after the elf trip, so it is hard to think of how she would develop sexual desire for Simon before Lynine and Orilise. It is very flimsy, but the only thing I can think of is that it was done by proxy. She meets Yarra and Qum during the Gathering and due to how helpful they are she gets a good first impression of the unnamed Incubus King, she doesn't think much of it since he doesn't even have any land yet, but after she hears about him conquering Yhilin, then she starts thinking about him as a serious player, and considering how kinky Fheliel turned out to be, it isn't entirely impossible that's all it took for her to at least fantasize a bit about the Doom King.

Alternatively, maybe I'm stretching this too far and it just happened in rapid succession during the party split, chronologically Esthera happens first since she rails him the same day she took him, during Megail's path Sarai hears about what happened with Carina and realizes Simon taking a priestess is not outside the realm of possibilities so she comes second, and then Fheliel comes last since The Gathering happens late chronologically and that's where Yarra and Qum made a good impression.