Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-27713488-20181103233945/@comment-39120971-20190415191655

So many new replies, so much stuff to respond to again. Alright, here goes.

-About Mestan: As far as I remember, during Simon's Route when talking with Ambassador Lexande, Simon made it clear that he's not into guys (he said something like Wendis had him try and he just found it's not for him). Between that and Sierra confirming that Mestan is definitely a guy, that's all the evidence I need to judge he won't be joining Simon's harem. He might still help the group in other ways, like he already did by assassinating key targets at different points in the game, but he's not gonna sneak into Simon's bedroom and ambush him in the dark of night... unless Sierra is hiding a plot twist with genderflip Mestan, but I'm not seeing it. >o>

-About Vhala: Vhala's RP gains really are atypical, as Fulminato pointed out, the +2/+1/-1/-2 are very uncommon. They're not unique though, since Robin gained RP in similarly small amounts for the first two chapters of the game. I think the RP serve their purpose by unlocking those synergy skills when you have enough of them. Alternatively, I can see Vhala's RP getting a complete overhaul at some future point, along with adding a base RP value and letting us eventually max her, and the current RP are just a distraction so we cannot guess when that happens. Despite this, I still don't see her joining the harem even if we could lock her RP at 100 in the future. I find it unlikely but not impossible, so I'm just throwing the idea out there.

-About the Fallen Chosen in Rodak: I find that boss fascinating. Normally when the Chosen die, their power is lost, and the Church can make new Chosen again, since their numbers are roughly equal at any point in time, right? But the Lustlord managed to bind one Chosen's power into his bones... what does that mean?

I don't think he was expecting those bones to rise and fight again, actually. I think the Lustlord knew that if he didn't bind his power, then a new Chosen would be created and eventually find his way back to Rodak, alive and well. And then the Lustlord would have to kill that one and await a new one, over and over again. But by binding the Chosen's power to those bones, he effectively caused a permanent -1 to the Chosen army over in Arclent. Think about it - if he could bind the power of the other Chosen, one by one, until new ones eventually stopped appearing at all... could he cripple the Church of Ivala, or would they 'amp the power' of the Chosen 'Hatchery' to compensate? Plus the Fallen Chosen seemed to be unaware of who exactly he was fighting, a mindless soldier that the Lustlord could keep as a secret weapon against the other Incubus Kings (not a great one admittedly, but it's something).

The Fulminato wrote:

OneMore wrote:

Are they? I thought Simon said he's been training Chosen ones for several years. in the meeting between simon, riala, sarai and janine in the end of chapter one

Simon: Every effort I've made to change the world has ended in failure. Sarai: ''That's not true. After the war, before we had any Chosen, you threw the Incubus King out of Zirantia.''

and wendis die here. (~30 years ago) we don't know when the chosen appear but it's after wendis die. it's more probable is zelica power used for create them, not the MDB one. but i think the anak captured zelica, and i find hardly he wan create chosen in arclent. [one can argue for he want killed the IE/AoA and developed the 'chosen program' to do that, but the chosen are so moronic inept and the anak don't strike me he spend resource in a useless project like this] -About the Chosen First Appearing: I'm not sure whether it's Zelica, Ivala, or (and?) MDB, maybe it makes sense when you look at the timeline, but the Chosen clearly wield Ivala's Blessing, yes? The game mechanics themselves say that, when healing Kai/Tal and giving bonus experience. In a sense, reading that text counts as meta knowledge, since the characters of the TLS world cannot know with certainty, but I tend to trust such messages if/when they are available.

In other words, if Ivala's Blessing gives Chosen their power, then their creation must be tied to her somehow, as well. Maybe she was captured only recently... or maybe, she was captured in the past, but only recently her captors invented the way of draining her power and using it to create the Chosen?

In contrast with them, the Unpeople were created during the final push of the 2nd Arclent War, after the late Givini King's last stand that Simon remembers, and they were used to drive the AoA back and establish the borders where they were (prior to the 3rd Arclent War, of course). I think that back when we first encountered them in the Yhilin Mansion, Simon said that the Unpeople were an army to answer the sex magic wielded by the Incubus King's armies, while the Chosen were supposed to be a precision weapon sent to bring down the Incubus King(s) directly? Although none of them got very far, the intent behind them is... well, I can only say it's interesting, for now.

And now a thought that just hit me: since Simon defeated the AoA, he (or rather the Doom King) is the only Incubus King currently residing in Arclent. Does that mean all of the Chosen still being created are going to be aiming to take him down? Or will they turn their attention to other continents and go after the Lustlord, Fucklord and the rest? At least the Fucklord's attack made SOME of the rulers aware that Arclent isn't safe even with a nice Doom King in Yhilin.

... okay, I think I'm starting to ramble on this matter, so let me move on.

-About the Anak: During the cutscene between the Prologue and Chapter One, Xestris reports about the Chosen and his response is 'then it's business as usual', so clearly they both know about them. I wouldn't be surprised if they know far more than we do at this point, including the secrets to how Chosen are made and who's behind it all. Now if only we could meet them again to learn more about these and other matters...

I'm not far enough in the game to judge how far one can trust the Anak's words, but during the Gathering he impressed me with his no-nonsense focus (in contrast to the Fucklord and AoA especially). Until I hit upon some evidence to the contrary, I'm prone to think that he's the type who wouldn't lie to Simon directly, but only by omission: he can keep quiet on things he doesn't want Simon to know about and direct his attention to useful distractions and away from the really important stuff. In other words, we can trust what he says, but question what he's still keeping a secret from Simon.

Part of me is hoping that the Anak will be the actual final boss of TLS, since that would be an epic battle and he's the most interesting Incubus King, well, up there with the Empress herself. But part of me is also hoping that he gets into a fight with the Lustlord and will need Simon's help to bring him down instead, because Simon cooperating with the Anak would be amazing too.

82.234.101.145 wrote:

This talk about Synergy skills made me think, do you think it could be possible that in future update, or chapters, Simon would gain access to synergy skills with members of the harem and the same would apply to the fighting member ? I find myself frustrated by how much some Synergy are good, other are not so good, while Simon start to become so rigid and not fun to play by comparison of others team members, who gains new skills. If by the next chapter, Robin doesn't have her transformation as a skill, I'll be sad. -About New Synergy Skills: One can only hope. I would like to see Simon get something too, although I think in his case it would be slightly unbalanced, since aside from the split-party segments Simon is always the leader in our group? I tend to view the requirement of putting a pair of characters you might not always want in your party as part of the balancing factor of synergy skills, and synergy with the team leader would undermine that. Then again, for lore reasons, why not? ... aside from the problem you'd want 'one synergy skill per every combat party member' and that would get out of hand really fast.

In short, I'm all for more synergy skills, but I'm not picky about who will get them. Well, maybe I'd like to see those characters who still don't have theirs to finally get them, for the variety, plus the scenes we get with them!