Board Thread:The Last Sovereign Discussion/@comment-39332473-20190808194309/@comment-36170150-20190814195832

NoelMittUns wrote:

Asexuality is a sexual orientation like "bald" is a hair color. I'd say it is more like "bald" is a hair-style, incongruous but not impossible.

NoelMittUns wrote:

If metaphysical-lust and metaphysical-purity had nothing to do with everyday lust and purity, then why would Alonon name them such, and why would he make such a big deal of how it's a joke for him based on his own asexuality? It's much more probable that they're one and the same, and hence they're ruled by physics rather than societal rules. (Then again society would be an emergent property of this duality anyway, since everything is, so the conclusion would be the same.)

Plus, he's been surrounded by pressure to be sexually active for most of his life; I'm pretty sure he was born this way. I wouldn't say the metaphysical lust and purity are completely unrelated to the normal ones, but they aren't linearly connected, we've seen evidence otherwise. The best purity spells of the Ivalan Church, probably the highest authority on holy magic in the world, could be deceived by Riala with enough research on what effects they really measure. The elves, who are more lust than purity, live under mostly sexually repressive customs, because their "affinity" for lust energy made them weak to it and sex can make them feel uncomfortably vulnerable. More metaphysical-lust is not necessarily making people enjoy real-sex better.

Also, if there is one thing we know for sure is that pressuring a young person into something could NEVER backfire.

NoelMittUns wrote: Why would he? He doesn't have sexual instincts to begin with, such a process would be pointless for him. (And he's a king, so it could be seen as a statement, or make people uneasy with him.) Also, Vhala didn't say that she disliked her sexual instincts, just that she enjoys being an unwoman better. Since being an unperson is the removal of sexual instincts, I think its fair to say Vhala lost those and gained nothing in return aside from the peace of not having them. I think liking NOTHING better than something is the same as disliking said thing.

Also I don't know why you're sure Alonon had no sexual instincts, rather than just not drawing any enjoyment from them. If Alonon is a "real" asexual and that's why he would gain nothing from the Unpeople process, are you saying Vhala is not a "real" asexual because she actually benefited from the unpeople transformation?